Bringing Joy to Climate Action with Mike, Will, and a Drag Queen named Pattie Gonia

Podcast listeners! My "Heat Pump"/"Geothermal" partner Will Hammond, Jr and I are featured on the most recent episode of Climate One, from the Commonwealth Club. 

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They talk about us in the intro, then our interview begins at 30:27. We talk climate action, music, and one of my favorite things, the Climate Venn Diagram. 

In between is a great interview with—indeed—environmentalist / drag queen Pattie Gonia. I highly recommend listening to it. Pattie has a lot of astute insights into climate action (my favorite: "Joy is strategic") and, as you might imagine, a fascinating backstory. 

I checked out their website but I'll admit I couldn't stay long, as I was too intimidated by their amazing talents and accomplishments. I realized quickly why they are the sole headliner on the episode! I'll have you know, however, that the podcast producers told us our songs gave them the idea for the episode. So we've got that going for us (even if Yo-Yo Ma didn't play on our songs). 

Mike and Will: also on the episode